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Critique Cassu Belli N°2

Critique Cassu Belli N°2



Critique Cassu Belli N°2 Septembre 2010

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Pas facile de se procurer ce Casus Belli ; Les points de ventes sont encore mal connus. J’ai pourtant eu l’occasion de mettre la main dessus. C’est que le sujet principal m’intéresse : La bête intérieure ! Le lien avec les possédés est évident (du moins pour moi et mon JDR en préparation).

Déjà l’ouvrage est plus dense que le précédent. Plus de texte moins aérés donc plus de travail produit. Le mag prend forme.
Je vais surtout m’attaquer au fond plus qu’à la forme. Déjà, le courrier des lecteurs est osé puisqu’on a droit à une lettre d’un lecteur pas content. Une façon de montrer les efforts entrepris par le mag et sa politique vis-à-vis des lecteurs. A voir dans le futur.

Le chapitre News n’a rien de bien intéressant pour ceux qui suivent les infos  du JDR sur le net. Toutefois les points sur le cinéma ou le Palmares des ENnies awards ont bien leur place ici. D’ailleurs les couleurs criardes de cette section  sont franchement agressives.

Les critiques  sont ... biens ! On parle de bouquins qui viennent de sortir voir ne sont pas encore en vente (Tenga). C’est bien. La critique est résumée en quelques lignes à la fin par un j’aime/J’aime pas ce qui est franchement pratique (et rappel de vieux souvenirs). Finit les critiques de jeu sortis il y a 6 mois.

Le dossier sur la bête intérieur commence alors. Bon, je ne le cache pas, je m’attendais à mieux. Mais comme ca fait un an que je suis sur le sujet, on va dire que j’ai eu le temps de bien plus creuser la chose que ce qu’il y a sur ces 6-7 pages. Donc rien d’utile pour moi là dedans.

Les scénarios : le cœur du mag. : 21 pages consacrés au scénar, c’est cool. On en a 4, un pour univers contemporain, un pour le med fan, un autre pour le cyberpunk. Bref, avec un peu de temps, le MJ peut adapter ces scénarios à son univers.

On retrouve le sujet de la bête intérieure dans ces scénars. Enfin surtout le thème de la possession vu comme quelques choses de pas bien du tout et que les démons c’est mal ! C’est donc un peu triste de développer une aide de jeu sur le sujet de la bête pour finir en l’utilisant de façon si caricaturale (oui je suis un peu méchant là).
Le Scénar Trinité noir peut s’adapter à n’importe quel univers contemporain. L’enquête est simple, un indice menant au suivant. Gros problème : il n’y a pas d’élément déclencheur : pourquoi les PJs iraient enquêter sur la vie de ce gars qui vient de crever dans  un accident de la route ? Des idées de musiques de fond clôtures le scénar ce que j’ai apprécié.

Le scénario Warsaw est bien sympa mais manque de petites explications très courtes pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas l’univers.  C’est quoi le Krov, C’est quoi les Stakanov ? Sinon c’est plutôt bien écrit, de l’exploration bien violente. Ça donne aussi envie d’en apprendre plus sur l’univers de cette guerre perpétuelle.
Ce scénar souffre à mon sens de la même faiblesse que le scénario Shadowrun qui suit : il est raconté du point de vue du meneur. C'est-à-dire qu’il commence en vous racontant tout le pourquoi du comment du scénar de ce que vient faire cette base secrète ici pendant deux pages. Pareil  pour le scénar Shadowrun en pire. Une page pour expliquer toute l’intrigue puis le reste n’est qu’une succession de « les joueurs vont là, ils ont tel indice puis ils vont là et ont tel indice ». Je trouve que commencé un scénar par cette présentation enlève toute immersion. Le MJ connaissant l’histoire il ne fait après aucun effort pour s’imaginer comment les joueurs vont la ressentir. Et si on ne se met pas à la place des joueurs, on ne peut pas leur faire peur ou jouer avec leurs sentiments.
C’est assez dommage pour le scénario shadowrun car l’idée de base est franchement originale, et pour une fois votre employeur ne veut pas vous arnaquer. Un scénario basé sur le Kawai et les Tamagochis, il fallait le faire.

Le dernier scénar, Pathfinder, pourrait se copier coller dans n’’importe quel univers med fan(DD Warhammer, Earthdawn), sans changer une virgule ou presque.  J’aurais apprécié un plan de la fonderie ou une illustration de cet enchevêtrement de passerelle et de haut fourneau qui sert de décor à ce scénar clairement plus bourrin que les trois autres.

Les aides de jeu sont intéressantes. J’ai lu avec intérêt le passage sur les Mystes (toujours pour mon petit jdr 17).  J’ai retrouvé des idées que j’ai développé pour le jeu, même si j’ai fait des choix bien différent.
On a droit à un passage sur l’utilisation des désavantages par les joueurs, de comment cela peut les aider à donner du relief à leur perso et comment le MJ doit les utiliser dans sa campagne. C’est du classique en théâtre : pour rendre un personnage réaliste, il a un comportement humain donc des défauts. La vie de Superman est chiante à mourir car il est parfait. (et encore).  Mais Batman lui est timbré. C’est tout de suite plus intéressant.

On finit avec une aide de jeu sur le Mac Guffin que je conseillerai à tous les MJs. Article simple précis et efficace qui présente bien ce concept qui vous permettra de générer encore bien des scénarios.

On finit avec un article sur "Découvrir le JDR". Euh mouais. Pourquoi l’avoir placé dans le numéro 2 ? Et pourquoi à la fin du bouquin ? Et pourquoi ne pas proposé de JDR d’initiation ?  Le mag avait il trop peur pour prendre partie pour certains jeux ? Mais quelqu’un qui veut découvrir a besoin de conseil, si le mag se désiste en disant : « demander aux autres ». Ça ne va pas.
Juste à la fin du mag, j’ai bien aimé l’article « Classiques et indés » qui recouvre les films, livres, BDs et autres sur le thème de la bête intérieur.

Bon au final, le mag s’améliore. Le N°2 est bien mieux que le 1 (du moins ce sont mes gouts). Je suis très critique sur les scénarios et les aides de jeu mais je reste persuadé qu’un MJ qui achète ce type de mag regardera ceci en priorité. D’ailleurs j’en profite pour faire une petite suggestion : pourquoi ne pas mettre à la fin de chaque scénar proposé l’avis d’un joueur qui l’a testé ? On pourrait avoir son ressenti, les scènes qu’il na pas aimé ou les points du scénar qu’il n’a pas compris.

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10-10-2010 13:33:05

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Re: Critique Cassu Belli N°2

Salut Doc !

Tu m'as devancé ^^ En même tant, il n'y a pas eu de mal vu que je vous avait promis une critique pour le week end dernier et que je ne l'ai toujours pas faite smile

Très bonne critique que tu nous présentes et très constructive en plus. Manque plus qu'une petite note sur 20 de ta part.

Ça me permet de vous proposer mon ressenti sur ce numéro 2 via ta critique.

Concernant la difficulté de trouver les magazines, j'avoue que ce n'est pas encore ça. Mais aussi la faute à certains points de presse, car le numéro 1 je l'ai trouvé entre les mots-croisés, puis le numéro 2 je l'ai trouvé dans Histoire et Sciences (logique^^)
Pour ceux qui ne trouvent toujours pas, bah, fallait être présent à OctoGônes, en plus de pouvoir vous procurer le mag vous auriez pu parler aux auteurs big_smile

Sinon, j'ai eu le même ressenti que toi en un peu moins sévère, car oui, ce numéro 2 est belle et bien mieux que le numéro 1, et on sent que les auteurs acceptent la critique et prennent en compte les remarques. C'est très appréciable.

Concernant les news c'est tout pareil que doc, il est vrai que si on est connecté au web, on est un minimum au courant de la plupart des news. Mais il est important pour un tel magazine de proposer un minimum d'actualités et je trouve même qu'ils ont réussi à condenser tout ceci pour ne pas prendre trop de place sur le reste. Ok pour les couleurs^^

Pour les scénarios je n'ai pas grand chose à rajouter, si ce n'est que des MJs novices ne seront pas perdu. On reste dans le thème, c'est ce que j'apprécie aussi.

Les aides sont de bonne facture.

Bien vu pour l'article sur "Découvrir le JDR". Il est vrai que c'est une belle prise de risque que ce sujet, sachant que la majeure partie des personnes qui vont acheter le mag connaisse un minimum le jdr.

Perso, si j'avais une note à donner pour ce numéro, ce serait un bon 15/20

Pour finir : un bon magazine, qui reste améliorable, mais qui ravira la plupart des rôlistes. La cadence mensuelle risque d'être un vrai challenge. On verra vraiment les évolutions à partir du numéro 3.

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11-10-2010 11:22:25

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Re: Critique Cassu Belli N°2

Héhé, pour une fois, j'ai devancé Padre !

Alors ouais, une petite note pour ce mag... je dirais 14.5
Je suis persuadé que l'équipe peut faire encore mieux, même si ca s'est déjà bien amélioré.

En tout cas, je suis bien content de retrouver des magazines de JDR. smile


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